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What is the principle of keyless entry for cars? [Copy link]

The car key is very small, and there should be a button battery inside as a power source. The information on the Internet says that RFID technology is used. Is the car key a receiver? I think it is most likely a receiver, but even as a receiver, it still consumes a certain amount of power. So I wonder if the car key is similar to an IC card, and then the car keeps detecting whether there is a key (IC card) around, and opens when it detects it. If so, will the IC card of the key be copied? Does anyone understand the relevant principles?

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This is not really "dry stuff"...   Details Published on 2022-7-22 18:48
 

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There is news today.

WPG World Peace Group Launches Low-Cost Passive Entry and Start (PEPS) Solution Based on NXP Products

https://news.eeworld.com.cn/IoT/ic616697.html

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It is indeed the car that initiates the scan and then detects the key. I roughly understand the principle!  Details Published on 2022-7-21 09:07
 
 

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This is neither RFID nor IC card, the technical routes are different.

To be honest, the design concept of PKE (keyless entry system) comes from the combination of traditional central control remote control and TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) subsystem technology, at least I think so.

I have designed many versions of these two systems in the early and mid-2000s. Among them, TPMS encountered a huge obstacle that was difficult to overcome, namely the power supply problem mentioned by the original poster, and theoretically there is no way to solve it with linear thinking. Therefore, the only way to solve this problem is to use nonlinear thinking.

At that time, I wanted to use the energy feeding idea of passive contactless IC card to try to solve the problem, but the energy feeding distance was far, which had to reach the meter level, and the influence of large metal objects on the vehicle had to be solved. The energy requirement was not high, and it was enough to trigger the interrupt of MCU by a level change. The MCU at that time could be awakened by external interrupts, and the sleep power consumption was fully able to meet the requirements.

The technical route I chose was the 125KHz contactless IC card system, which could make use of existing resources, make experiments easier, and 125KHz is much less affected by large metal objects than MHz-level signals. However, given the extremely high requirements for volume, weight, and power consumption of the aftermarket TPMS system, I found that this technical route must be in the form of an integrated circuit to meet the requirements, and no existing devices could do it, so the project was eventually scrapped.

The second year after the project was discontinued, I saw a piece of news online that Atmel would launch a wake-up chip dedicated to TPMS. I remember that the press release mentioned that it would use a 400KHz signal, and the technical route was exactly the same as what I had imagined. Because I had many projects to do, I never touched the TPMS system again. Later, I made a special effort to learn more about it and found that the frequency used by the wake-up system was simply 125KHz.

As for the PKE system, its working condition is completely similar to TPMS. In order to extend the battery life, the 125KHz wake-up technology of TPMS can be used directly. I just checked and found that there are also 315KHz ones. In addition to the original Atmel, NXP, Micro Chip (through the acquisition of Atmel) and others also have related chips. Given the market size, it is estimated that there should be a dedicated chip that integrates the wake-up system, MCU, and ISM transmission circuit. If you are interested, you can check it out.

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I see. It turns out that Chunyang has research experience in this area!  Details Published on 2022-7-22 17:47
I see. It turns out that Chunyang has research experience in this area!  Details Published on 2022-7-21 09:09
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It uses the principle of RFID electronic tags

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yes!  Details Published on 2022-7-21 09:09
 
 
 

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qwqwqw2088 posted on 2022-7-20 17:42 There is a news today. WPG World Peace Group launched a low-cost keyless entry and start (PEPS) solution based on NXP products htt ...

It is indeed the car that initiates the scan and then detects the key. I roughly understand the principle!

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chunyang posted on 2022-7-20 17:42 This is neither RFID nor IC card, the technical route is different. To be honest, the design idea of PKE (keyless entry system) comes from the traditional central control...

I see. It turns out that Chunyang has research experience in this area!

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qwqwqw2088 posted on 2022-7-20 17:44 It uses the principle of RFID electronic tags

yes!

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This can be played.

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Is there any good solution?  Details Published on 2022-7-22 08:59
 
 
 

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btty038 posted on 2022-7-21 23:16 You can play with this

Is there any good solution?

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chunyang posted on 2022-7-20 17:42 This is neither RFID nor IC card, the technical route is different. To be honest, the design idea of PKE (keyless entry system) comes from the traditional central control...

There are a lot of great things, looking forward to more exciting sharing

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This is not really "dry stuff"...  Details Published on 2022-7-22 18:48
 
 
 

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se7ens posted on 2022-7-22 17:47 The boss has a lot of dry goods, looking forward to more exciting sharing

This is not really "dry stuff"...

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