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I am used to AD hierarchical schematics and harnesses, and now I can’t live without them anymore. The most prominent advantage is that it is much more efficient to check design errors with hierarchical diagrams than with flat schematics. Although the page spans of flat schematics can also show which pages the network is connected to, it is still inconvenient to check them one by one. Moreover, some relatively disabled software (mentor EE) does not support displaying the page number next to the page span. In this case, if you want to ensure that all networks are correctly connected and the board is successful, you can only pray for God’s blessing.

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The AD function has not been used yet. The board currently being designed has more than a thousand components, which are divided into different pages and bit numbers according to the functional circuits.   Details Published on 2024-6-18 22:11
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AD This feature is really good, and the schematic is clear and beautiful.

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The schematics I draw now are simple, and I have not yet experienced the hierarchical diagram function of AD.

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I have to process a 32-page schematic, and the page span cannot display the page number. I am about to explode.  Details Published on 2023-11-23 18:36
 
 
 

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wangerxian posted on 2023-11-23 17:43 At present, the schematics I draw are simple, and I have not experienced the hierarchical diagram function of AD.

I have to process a 32-page schematic, and the page span cannot display the page number. I am about to explode.

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How to solve the problem that page span cannot display page number?  Details Published on 2023-11-28 07:24
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How big a board is, how many pages of schematics are needed? Can several people work together to draw a schematic for a board?


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More complex embedded systems and general desktop hardware are of this scale  Details Published on 2023-11-24 11:26
More complex embedded systems and general desktop hardware are of this scale  Details Published on 2023-11-23 22:11
 
 
 

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Daqin Zhengsheng published on 2023-11-23 20:09 How big a board needs so many pages of schematics? Can several people draw the schematic of a board together?

More complex embedded systems and general desktop hardware are of this scale

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I haven't used AD to draw for many years, and I have never drawn a hierarchical schematic diagram.
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What is the success rate of one board?  Details Published on 2023-11-23 23:51
 
 
 

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lkh747566933 posted on 2023-11-23 23:37 I haven't used AD to draw for many years, and I have never drawn a hierarchical schematic.

What is the success rate of one board?

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Fortunately, there were no mistakes. The main reason is that my board is not that complicated.   Details Published on 2023-11-23 23:54
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Nubility posted on 2023-11-23 23:51 What is the success rate of a board

Fortunately, there were no mistakes. The main reason is that my board is not that complicated.

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There is a 1000 pin or more board, and it can guarantee 100% success without a hierarchy diagram, which is amazing.  Details Published on 2023-11-24 00:14
 
 
 

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lkh747566933 posted on 2023-11-23 23:54 Fortunately, there was no error. Mainly because my board is not that complicated.

There is a 1000 pin or more board, and it can guarantee 100% success without a hierarchy diagram, which is amazing.

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More than 1500 Pins  Details Published on 2023-11-24 16:00
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It depends on the situation. If the circuit board is relatively simple, a hierarchical diagram is still required. AD also supports module reuse.

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I don't like reusing modules, I always have to make a lot of rooms  Details Published on 2023-11-24 09:13
 
 
 

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KICAD has the same function, and it is open source and does not often receive lawyers' letters.

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fjdeepblue posted on 2023-11-24 08:15 It depends on the situation. If the circuit board is relatively simple, a hierarchical diagram is still required. AD also supports module reuse.

I don't like reusing modules, I always have to make a lot of rooms

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If you don't design the schematic diagram according to the hierarchy diagram, you will sometimes have to search for related principles on multiple pages, which is really frustrating.

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Daqin Zhengsheng published on 2023-11-23 20:09 How big a board needs so many pages of schematics? Can several people draw the schematic of a board together?

It seems that AD already has the function of drawing schematics with multiple people working together

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Actually, it is nothing. Only when everyone's computer can display other people's actions in real time like playing games can it be true collaborative operation. Current PCB software does not do this. Cadence and Mentor claim to have done it, but watching their demonstration videos, they are still stuck. It takes 2-3 seconds for one person to operate one thing.  Details Published on 2023-11-24 11:42
 
 
 

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Your board is quite advanced.

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wangerxian posted on 2023-11-24 11:26 It seems that AD already has the function of multi-person collaborative drawing of schematics

Actually, it is nothing. Only when everyone's computer can display other people's actions in real time like playing games can it be true collaborative operation. Current PCB software does not do this. Cadence and Mentor claim to have done it, but watching their demonstration videos, they are still stuck. It takes 2-3 seconds for one person to operate something before it is displayed on other people's computers.

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If you want real-time synchronization, you'll probably need a better local area network. Their servers are probably located overseas, so there will definitely be a high delay.  Details Published on 2023-11-24 16:51
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This function is really useful. By the way, I would like to ask why RS485 and W5500 have a triangular shear mark?


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The arrow indicates that this is a schematic submodule that has been made into a device sheet, which means module reuse. But I don't like this thing very much. The component position number and network name of the device sheet cannot be modified. The component number also needs to be marked at the board level to avoid conflict, which is not conducive to reading the diagram. I still like to put the device sheet  Details Published on 2023-11-24 13:42
 
 
 

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littleshrimp posted on 2023-11-24 12:24 This function is really useful. By the way, why do RS485 and W5500 have a triangular shear mark?

The arrow indicates that this is a schematic submodule that has been made into a device sheet, which means module reuse. But I don't like this thing very much. The component position numbers and network names of the device sheet cannot be modified, and the component numbers also need to be marked at the board level to avoid conflicts, which is not conducive to reading the diagram. I still prefer to convert the device sheet back to a normal schematic.

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What is the difference between this kind of use? [attachimg]756060[/attachimg]   Details Published on 2023-11-24 15:18
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Nubility posted on 2023-11-24 13:42 The arrow indicates that this is a schematic submodule that has been made into a device sheet, which is module reuse. But I don't like this thing, device she ...

What is the difference with this kind of utilization?

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This is a multi-channel, you can use a normal schematic or a device sheet.  Details Published on 2023-11-24 15:42
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