A new interview with Steve Jobs has been exposed: he complained about Microsoft, responded to controversy, and even threw the Mac out the window, but...

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Jobs' unpublished interview was exposed for the first time???

Recently, a podcast has been circulating in the technology circle. Together with the well-known American host Joe Rogan, Jobs discussed his college experience, his views on computers, his work status, his beliefs and other topics. In just 20 minutes, the podcast was packed with information.

The opinions are still so harsh, "Microsoft's aesthetics are too bad", "I want to throw my Mac out of the window"...

The tone and intonation are still familiar, and he even lets out his trademark laughter from time to time.

A large number of netizens exclaimed Amazing!

Some netizens also found that something was a little wrong...

What is going on? Let’s read on.

An informative interview

Let’s take a look at this podcast first.

The nearly 20-minute interview was quite full of information. The host Joe Rogan is quite famous. As a top podcast host and talk show actor, he was previously signed by Spotify for an exclusive cooperation agreement of US$100 million.

At the beginning of the show, Rogan directly teased Jobs as a "memory of the past", and Jobs smiled and replied, "Nice to see you, man, I haven't been on your show in a long time."

Next, the two of them praised each other commercially and called each other their loyal fans.

In the interview, Logan was as bold as ever. He even told Jobs that he particularly liked the well-known American technology blog Gizmodo.

You know, this website once had a lot of unpleasantness with Apple because of the early exposure of iPhone 4.

But what I didn't expect was that Jobs's attitude was very calm. He just said lightly that he was surprised by everything he saw on Gizmodo, and the topic was just dropped? ? ?

But when talking about Microsoft, Jobs was as sharp as ever: Microsoft did a good job, but their problem was that they had no aesthetics, and Windows 3 was simply a disastrous product.

They didn't think about people's experience at all and just did what they thought was right, which is terrible.

Not only was he cruel to others, but Jobs was also quite daring to complain about his own products.

They mentioned that they didn’t know how to teach their children to face the future technological world, and sometimes they really wanted to throw their Macs out the window.

Another person followed up by saying that he already did that and that he threw them away every few years to make sure they were still working properly.

I always feel like something is wrong???

After the above conversation was released, some netizens and media people noticed something was wrong .

First, the logic of the sentences and opinions is not so appropriate. Many expressions are like the combination of words that Jobs often used, including aesthetics, innovation, revolutionary products, and the victory of Macintosh computers...

Second, a lot of the ideas come from Jobs' past interviews and conversations.

For example, his criticism of Microsoft is very similar to what he said in the documentary "Triumph of the Nerds" in 1995. At that time, he said: (Microsoft team) They are all smart people, doing a good job, but they have never had taste and aesthetic awareness.

Another problem was also exposed. Rogan's podcast was founded in 2009, just two years after Jobs' death. During this period, Jobs never talked to Rogan, but now he said that he had not been on the show for a long time.

So, the truth is-

This content is produced by AI.

In interviews and publicity, the producers acknowledged this and they hoped to use the Jobs interview podcast as a gimmick to attract the attention of people in the industry.

To this end, the team searched for all biographies and recording data that could be found on the Internet. By feeding the AI ​​Jobs' past materials, the AI ​​generated a voice on the one hand.

Some media believe that Jobs' voice was mechanical and intermittent during the interview, a feature that originated from Apple's keynote speeches and All Things Digital conference interviews in the late 2000s.

On the other hand, conversation information is also generated by AI. Some media speculate that the text information may come from a large language model (LLM) similar to GPT-3.

Joe Rogan's voice and dialogue content are also "fake".

It can be seen from the social media accounts of the parties that there has been no self-promotion regarding the interview with Steve Jobs recently. Reports have revealed that the production team fed AI a large amount of data from his past programs to generate voice and content.

Because of the involvement of two top stars, Steve Jobs and Joe Rogan, and the topicality of AI "forgery", the content has caused quite a heated discussion online.

Especially regarding AI-generated content, some media believe that the interview did not add information.

Some people think this is unrealistic:

Some people even complained that humans speak too little nonsense, so is there a need for AI to generate it?

However, some Steve Jobs fans said that they still feel something about it——

"It's really nice to be able to sit in the car and hear Gang Leader Qiao's output again."

The team behind it is quite fun

Introducing the team behind the incident.

The company behind this AI podcast podcast.ai is called Play.ht. It is mainly based in Dubai and was established in 2016.

Their main business is AI text-to-speech generator. In September this year, they released the first speech model Peregrine. It is said that its model principle is similar to that of large language models (such as DALE and GPT-2) and is trained using self-supervised methods. AI can imitate the tone and emotion of a specific person——

Their official website displays multiple celebrity simulated voices, including: Musk, Tom Hanks, John F. Kennedy, etc.

It is worth mentioning that this technical team is really good at doing things.

They even set up a voting website to let netizens choose who they want to hear the AI-generated conversation with whom. The first place was Buddha talking to Einstein, and the second place was Trump interviewing himself.

Finally, here is the link to the podcast interview with Steve Jobs produced by AI: https://podcast.ai/

Reference links:
[1]https://play.ht/blog/introducing-truly-realistic-text-to-speech-with-emotion-and-laughter/
[2]https://gizmodo.com/joe-rogan -steve-jobs-ai-podcast-1849643390
[3]https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/10/fake-joe-rogan-interviews-fake-steve-jobs-in-an-ai-powered -podcast/