[Dialogue with forum members] My main focus now is to find chips, buy them first and then develop them

nmg

[Dialogue with forum members] My main focus now is to find chips, buy them first and then develop them [Copy link]

 

 

Long time no see, have you all turned into buyers? Hahaha

(This chat is all for activities, I am the administrator of reality)

I chatted with Ding Ding, a senior engineer at the forum, in the afternoon and found that everyone’s current development model has become: purchase first, then develop...

okhxyyo

This is really a very frustrating thing. A netizen once complained that he used ST chips to make products at the beginning, but the price increased and they were out of stock. He changed to a domestic chip, asked for a good price, and they were in stock. As a result, after the product was made, it was out of stock, and he had to look for it again. This is really a very frustrating thing. If the procurement is not done, it is useless to start development now.

okhxyyo

I think the current strategy is to buy it first and then do it.

ljj3166

It seems that the domestic and foreign markets are still not optimistic about China's chip capabilities.

freebsder

Why are domestic chips also out of stock?

btty038

I can’t buy it now. The price has been raised since April 8th. I can’t buy it. The cycle is long. I can’t get this or that.

qwqwqw2088

Yes, busy looking for chips

bigbat

I have encountered such a problem recently. It takes more than a year for a product to be developed and stabilized. It is not ruled out that some small-volume products may not take such a long time. If there is not enough time, it is likely that the gains will outweigh the losses for large-volume products, and it will not be cost-effective to offend customers. I think it is best not to rush to return the chips. This situation is related to the overall environment. For small factories, it is better to grit their teeth and maintain customers at high prices than to offend customers.

annysky2012

Is it so scarce now? Have I felt it yet?

nmg

freebsder posted on 2021-5-10 22:46 Why are domestic chips also out of stock?

It's determined by production capacity.

I talked to a fae of a gd agent and he said that the domestic ones have been out of stock for a long time. They have been in stock since November last year.

nmg

annysky2012 posted on 2021-5-11 08:07 Is it so scarce now? I haven’t felt it yet

Are you short of the materials you need?

nmg

ljj3166 Published on 2021-5-10 22:19 It seems that the domestic and foreign markets are still not optimistic about China's chip capabilities

What do you mean? Are you using Guoxin and there is no shortage of it?

Guoxin is actually in short supply. Most new users cannot get spot goods.

book1

Chips are just like people. The key is to use them in the right place! If used correctly, even obsolete chips will be full of youth. Otherwise, even the latest chips will be dead chips or even burnt! Let me give you a small example: video memory and internal memory. Even very early video memory and internal memory are not garbage now, because the discarded garbage is more valuable than it. However, it has fast speed and large capacity. It is perfect for high-speed data acquisition and temporary storage when used with FPGA...

okhxyyo

freebsder posted on 2021-5-10 22:46 Why are domestic chips also out of stock?

One reason is that the production capacity is not enough, and the other is the channels. Of course, there are also those who stock up when the wind blows.

okhxyyo

bigbat posted on 2021-5-11 07:43 I have encountered such a problem recently. It takes more than a year for a product to be developed and stabilized. It is not ruled out that some small batch products may not be used...

It's not just a matter of high prices, the point is that there is no stock. A good cook cannot cook without rice. Without chips, we can only think of finding chips or find substitutes that are in stock.

数码小叶

The overall environment cannot be changed. I feel that stockpiling is more terrible than production capacity.

se7ens

The semiconductor industry is about to usher in new developments

ljj3166

nmg posted on 2021-5-11 08:54 What do you mean? Are you using Guoxin and there is no shortage of stock? Guoxin is actually in short supply, you know, most new users can't get spot goods

Whenever there is a disturbance in the semiconductor market in China, wafer fabs will be flooded, burned, or blown away.

Most general MCU processes do not have particularly high requirements.

Why are there still so many speculators hoarding goods?

Even low-end MCUs will be out of stock this time

In essence, China itself has almost no complete IC industry chain, at least lacks some key chains.

Players have no confidence in the domestic industrial chain

w494143467

If you get it, it will take a long time!

nmg

ljj3166 Published on 2021-5-11 12:20 Whenever there is any disturbance in the Chinese semiconductor market, there will be wafer fabs flooded, burned, and blown away by the wind. Most general MCU processes do not actually require...

"Every time there is a disturbance in China's semiconductor market, wafer fabs will be flooded, burned or blown away by the wind."

——I actually sensed a conspiracy from this sentence. Is this an illusion?