Those who praise PADS and Allegro are all unsophisticated

lingking

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Why do I say "those who brag about PADS and Allegro are all unsophisticated"? Because this is the feeling I have had since I came into contact with electronic design. Recently, this feeling has become stronger and stronger. The design software I use is AD and Cadence orCAD and Cadence Allegro. Because no one in the company makes libraries for me, for the sake of convenience, I have always used AD to draw high-speed boards. However, the greasy middle-aged man next to me who uses PADS is not happy with it. He always tells me that AD is low-end and is not as good as his PADS for high-speed board design, and asks me to change the software as soon as possible. He also talks about how awesome PADS is. Recently, a new person who works on hardware came to my side and uses Allegro. As soon as he came, he started to brag about how awesome Allegro is, saying that all big companies use it, that all chip original factory demos are in Allegro format, so Allegro is the best, and that those who use AD are small companies with no technology, and other clichés. The old man and the newcomer bragged to each other, and I felt so embarrassed that my skin got goose bumps. In fact, these two are very typical, and they are not just around me. There are many such people in the entire electronics circle. There are especially many people in training and outsourcing. Which software is the best? This question is simply a false proposition and nonsense. Some people say that my PADS is the most fun to use, the most convenient, and the easiest to use, so it is the best. According to this logic, I can also say that your layout and routing functions are divided into two halves and need to be switched back and forth, so it is rubbish. The vias disappear while you are drawing, which is also rubbish. What to use for design is a personal freedom. Who is qualified to judge what software others use? One of the favorite things of local people is to deliberately belittle something, intending to show that they are particularly awesome and insightful. The idiots can be roughly divided into two types. The first type is the trainers. The idiots like to fool the rookies who have just come into contact with the electronics circle. Because AD is easy to use and has the most user-friendly UI, and there are a lot of materials, novices generally like to learn it. Some rookies cannot learn it because of their low IQ, so they are targeted by the trainers. The trainers tell the rookies that you are low-end, learn high-end P, A, D, S \ Cadence from me, just give me 10,000 or a few thousand yuan. Then the trainers teach the rookies how to use the software step by step. After learning a little bit of the fur, the rookies have some mediocre skills, and after making a few boards, they start to feel that what they said makes sense. The software I learned is really high-end, and the original AD, protel, etc. are rubbish. Look how awesome I am now, all because I learned awesome software! This is the second type of idiot. They always look for reasons from the outside, but never reflect on themselves. Here is a real-life example of a country bumpkin's fall: A trainer blasted AD in a group he created, mocking companies that used AD as bad companies. He got angry when someone posted his post online. What's even funnier is that he wrote a lot of books on what he called "low-end" software and sold them publicly, and also provided corresponding training, and then turned around and mocked them wildly. If he had the guts to write these words in his book and say such words in the advertisement of his AD training class, he would be considered courageous, but he didn't. What's even more bizarre is that this person shamelessly went to the official AD Q group to ask the group's main administrator, but was choked back by someone posting the screenshot below. This is the most typical example. Please see the specific post https://www.toutiao.com/i6506857976828002820/ A true master will not bother to show off. Even if he shows off unconsciously, he is showing off his insights into the product and his professional knowledge. Anyone with a little bit of brains can realize that what kind of product I make is determined by my understanding of the product, and design software is just a tool to realize this understanding. However, the country bumpkins don’t think so. They will say that the same person is awesome when using "high-end" software to design, but crashes when using "low-end" software to design. This kind of person is nothing more than showing off his presence, because his professional ability is not good enough, so he has to brag about these things. This content is original by lingking, a netizen on the EEWORLD forum. If you need to reprint or use it for commercial purposes, you must obtain the author’s consent and indicate the source

huangshengqun

1. When you are in school, you study individually and can use whatever you want. After joining the company, you work in a team. The purpose of unifying EDA tools is to improve efficiency. Secondly, my company has grown to a certain scale, and I have to issue an express prohibition to my employees from installing pirated EDA tools. Otherwise, someone will come to check every now and then. Which one would you choose, to purchase more AD licensing fees just to satisfy a certain employee, or to lay him off and recruit someone who is familiar with mainstream EDA and can quickly integrate into the team work?

huangshengqun

2. It is wrong to publicly post and call others unsophisticated. Being unable to accept new mainstream things and having narrow-minded thinking will only limit your development. To outsiders, it is like a group of people who drive cars are discussing how useful this transportation tool is, while a cyclist who doesn't even have a driver's license is disdainful and calls others unsophisticated. Many years later, when he gets married, has children, and buys a car, and tells the younger generation in the company how easy his car is to drive, he may also become a unsophisticated person.

huangshengqun

3. EDA software is just a tool. Whether it can draw a high-quality board depends more on people, their understanding of electromagnetic compatibility and their comprehensive processing capabilities. However, there is not so much time to slowly polish the actual project. Efficiency is more important. Only projects that catch up with the timing can allow the company to survive and develop. Using mainstream tools can often quickly use other people's libraries and reference circuits, while using inferior tools is like going back to primitive society. Think about what user group is using Nokia now.

lingking

huangshengqun posted on 2019-5-21 10:06 1. When you are in school, you study individually and can use whatever you want. After entering the company, you work in a team. The purpose of unifying EDA tools is to improve efficiency. Secondly, my company also has...

There is nothing much to say about this situation, but the people I am talking about, I have to say without a doubt, they are unsophisticated.

lingking

huangshengqun posted on 2019-5-21 10:18 2. It is wrong to publicly post and scold others for being unsophisticated. It is difficult to accept new mainstream things and narrow-mindedness will only limit your development. In the eyes of outsiders, it is like...

It is my freedom to accept what I like and what I hate. For those self-righteous people I mentioned above, it is hard to find other words to describe them besides unsophisticated. Perhaps "naive" is more appropriate. This kind of people are low B.

lingking

huangshengqun published on 2019-5-21 10:57 3. EDA software is just a tool. Whether it can draw a high-quality board depends more on people, on the understanding of electromagnetic compatibility and comprehensive processing capabilities, but the actual project...

What do you mean by mainstream? Have you ever been abroad? How dare you say mainstream? PADS, but it is because of the rise of copycat phones and other various copycat electronic products. Later, China began to come into contact with the original factory design, and began to brag about Allegro. They said that the original factory is using it, so it is very high-end and awesome. This is ridiculous. Because the original factory bought the chip design tool, which is already equipped with the PCB design tool, and there is no need to buy it separately.

lingking

huangshengqun posted on 2019-5-21 10:57 3. EDA software is just a tool. Whether it can draw a high-quality board depends more on people, on the understanding of electromagnetic compatibility and comprehensive processing capabilities, but the actual project...

And why are you so excited? Does it involve you?

lingking

huangshengqun posted on 2019-5-21 10:57 3. EDA software is just a tool. Whether it can draw a high-quality board depends more on people, on the understanding of electromagnetic compatibility and comprehensive processing capabilities, but the actual project...

Look, they are bragging again. Efficiency and mainstream, etc., still the same empty clichés.

qwqwqw2088

You can use any tool, just do your job well, don't worry about what others say. In the same company, everyone uses the software they are familiar with, which makes communication and archiving inconvenient. The company you work in uses a lot of software, and you don't know how the boards are connected and archived. Companies usually have their own software orientation, which depends on the guidance of the company's veterans, technical chief engineers, or the software company's public relations and technical services, etc.

lingking

qwqwqw2088 posted on 2019-5-21 22:41 You can use any tool, just do your job well, don’t worry about what others say, everyone in the same company uses the software they are familiar with, communicate and archive...

The company bought the genuine AD, I don’t know about the others. But those two colleagues are too annoying, and then I thought of what I saw before, and I was inspired to write this

chenzhufly

When arguing about these issues, people probably fail to distinguish whether they are discussing the advantages and disadvantages of the two tools, or the advantages and disadvantages of the two tools in solving a specific problem. If they cannot distinguish these two issues, it probably stems from insufficient knowledge on their own.

lingking

chenzhufly posted on 2019-5-22 00:23 When arguing about these issues, most people fail to distinguish whether they are talking about the pros and cons of two tools, or the pros and cons of two tools in solving a specific problem. These two...

There is nothing to say about pros and cons. The ones you like are good, and the ones you don't like are bad. My main purpose here is to talk about the locals. I really can't stand it.

yhchu

What the OP said is good, I support it.

lingking

yhchu posted on 2019-5-23 00:59 The OP is right, I support him.

Well, I am against people, not things. I have tolerated those idiots for a long time, I must complain

908508455a

What exists is reasonable

wsmysyn

I won't discuss the pros and cons of software. Just like mobile phones, everyone has their own preferences. You can just enjoy it yourself. Don't be tactless and recommend your software to me. What you like may not be what I like. Just like I like to use notepad++ to write programs, don't recommend eclipse, sublime text, UE, atom, etc. to me. Because I don't like them. I used to draw PCBs occasionally, and often used AD. Another colleague who came from a big factory used cadence + pads. He had almost the same attitude. He just kept silent. I'm not a professional PCB drawer. I don't have to use the same standard as Huawei and ZTE. What's the point of making a fuss?

lingking

wsmysyn posted on 2019-5-23 09:59 Let's not discuss the pros and cons of software. Just like mobile phones, everyone has their own preferences. Just enjoy it yourself. Don't be tactless and recommend yours to me. What you like may not be...

That's right, there are always some people who are as annoying as flies, because they really have nothing else to show off. They can only show off things that others don't use.

李少573

Each has its own characteristics. There is no need to say who is stronger or weaker. Besides, now it is the company that decides, not the individual, what software to use. The company must have factors such as archiving, packaging libraries, etc.

lingking

李少573 发表于 2019-5-27 08:46 Each has its own characteristics. There is no need to say who is strong or weak. Besides, now it is the company that decides, not the individual, what software to use.

I am mainly talking about the locals here, and I will not discuss the software.