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Last night, a photo of ZTE founder Hou Weigui at the airport went viral on WeChat Moments. ZTE was sanctioned by the US again for violating the US government's sanctions ban. ZTE founder Hou Weigui, who is over 77 years old, immediately started running around for this matter after hearing the news on Monday. In the photo, he and two other ZTE executives were busy transferring planes while pushing suitcases at the airport. Industry insiders said that the old man's resolute back was touching and they hoped ZTE would hold on. As the world's largest electronic product manufacturing base and the largest semiconductor market, the internationalization and independence of the domestic semiconductor industry is imperative...>>>For more details, please follow the EEWORLD subscription account WeChat push In response to this "ZTE incident", I would like to ask you a few questions: 1. Do you use domestic devices in your current or previous work? What are they mainly? 2. What is the reason for using domestic devices? 3. In your use, what do you think is the gap between domestic devices? 4. What do you think of this “ZTE incident”?
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1. DCDC has started using domestic products. They are very easy to use and low in price. 2. Domestic M0 M3 are also good. I have started to play with them, and they are good. I am going to use them in my products.  Details Published on 2018-4-24 10:02
 

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The ice is three feet thick, and it didn't freeze overnight! Sooner or later, China and the United States will have such a technology war. It's not just ZTE that needs to hold on, but the entire Chinese IC industry. I feel sorry for the old man.
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In fact, our country's electronic development strategy has always been to make breakthroughs in the field of chip manufacturing. The ZTE incident was bound to happen, but it happened to ZTE in advance. Helpless, hold on, ZTE! Among the four Asian tigers, only Taiwan and South Korea took the path of chip development, and Taiwan's chip industry developed well.
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1. Used before. The analog resistors and capacitors in military products are basically made in China. Digital ones with high integration or precision are more difficult, but domestic DSPs have also been used. 2. Model localization requirements 3. Not mastering the core, poor foundation, high price 4. Challenges contain opportunities. I hope the country will pay attention to basic research and development and the treatment of technical personnel.
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I hope ZTE survives the disaster. I hope the mainstream media can face up to these gaps. Don’t promote narrow patriotism all day long. Don’t brag about being the world’s number one again. How can we show off our important national equipment to others? Can the bicycle food delivery that cost tens of billions of dollars help us defeat the United States? Can BATJ stand up at this time? A few days ago, we were clamoring not to travel to South Korea. Samsung and Hyundai slightly raised their prices, and the Ministry of Commerce interviewed them. Ctrip and others are still cheating in China... The core reliance of the Celestial Empire is definitely not these deformed unicorns. What is the core reliance? The top management should plan carefully.
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This post was last edited by strong161 on 2018-4-19 21:34 1. Do you use domestic devices in your current or previous work? What are they mainly? You must have used domestic devices, depending on the needs, DIY, various resistors and capacitors are considered passive devices, universal STC 51 microcontroller. 2. What is the reason for using domestic devices? If there is really no need to use something too good, just use domestic ones 3. In your use, what do you think is the difference between domestic devices? Basically, the more expensive ones are definitely better. Facts have proved that the difference is not on the surface. The same 51, ATMEL and STC can be used anyway. Can it be said that there is no difference? There is no comparison for the low-end, and it can be said that there is nothing to do with the high-end. 4. What do you think of this "ZTE incident"? No Zuo No die, First of all, we have to reflect on the origin. It is indeed enough. In fact, it reflects that many domestic companies neglect their duties, do not respect the law, and do not talk about integrity. Such a large company has no integrity at all. Secondly, we need to reflect on the essence. In essence, it is a technological blockade. The US imperialist bullying plays with technology and privileges. On the contrary, only by focusing on technology can we have technological privileges, so we must also focus on technology. Finally, we need to reflect on the essence. In essence, without systematic production capacity, we will be controlled by others. It is urgent to strengthen systematic substitution. If the whole nation does not grow grain, the emperor will starve to death. Okay, concluding remarks: This is a challenge and an opportunity. It will further accelerate the attention of domestic ICs and improve domestic substitution capabilities. Remember that you must have a spare tire when choosing any material. You must have a spare tire. You must have a spare tire. You must have a spare tire.
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Use domestic products. We make them ourselves.
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I have made relatively few things myself. In the past, many of them were selected by the company, such as models or brands. Now many of them have been replaced by domestic ones. STM32 has been replaced by GD32. Most of the power chips have also been replaced by Belling. I have used AD several times, and changed from AD7705 to TM7705. I use Fenghua for capacitors and resistors.
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1. Do you use domestic devices in your current or previous work? What are they mainly? I have used power IC, low-power MOS, RC, diode, and universal STC. 2. What is the reason for using domestic devices? Usually it is because of cost constraints, and sometimes it is because of familiarity. 3. Where do you think the gap between domestic devices is in use? Putting aside the performance of the device itself (I don’t think it is necessary to compare, and some cannot be compared), such as the specification, many times some parameters are very vague, or simply not marked, there are basically few parameter curves, parameters are falsely marked, and test conditions are not indicated, etc. These places do not mean that the product itself is not good, but the attitude of the people who make the product is not good, be realistic. 4. What do you think of this "ZTE incident"? I have read many reports on the Internet, and the specific cause is unclear. The things that are worth thinking about have been described in detail, and I don’t have any opinions I want to express.
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To be honest, if it weren't for the delivery issue, I would try not to use domestic devices.
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This post was last edited by maychang on 2018-4-22 09:51 4. What do you think of this "ZTE incident"?
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4. What do you think of this "Zhongxing Incident"? Jiang Tingfu said in "Modern Chinese History" that "before the war we did not give them equality, and after the war they did not give us equality."
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4. What do you think of this "ZTE incident"? Honesty is the basis, and we must abide by the rules of the game.
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I agree with what you said. But the rules of the game are set by those who hold power, and those who are controlled by others must abide by their rules. Such rules are not based on freedom and equality.  Details Published on 2018-4-24 09:15
 
 
 

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1. Do you use domestic devices in your current or previous work? Which ones? Yes, STC 8-bit machine. 2. What is the reason for using domestic devices? Low cost and easy to use. 3. Where do you think the gap between domestic devices is in use? Let’s not talk about the products first, because there are too many kinds of devices and the gap is too big. Just talking about the human factor, China’s current economy pursues "significant" results, so it invests in projects and industries that can see "returns" in the short term. In the semiconductor industry, it may not make any sound after 10 years of investment. But if you don’t do this, how can you really make chips? 4. What do you think of this "ZTE incident"? Let’s not discuss ZTE’s merits and demerits. In essence, it is not ZTE’s responsibility. ZTE is just a box that exposes the problem. This box that has been opened explains a lot of things. ZTE must have its own mistakes, but in the end, it is still the backwardness of China’s semiconductor industry. Whenever the United States provokes a trade war, it will play this card. This time it is ZTE, who will it be next time?
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4. What do you think of this "ZTE incident"? Honest people don't speak in secret, the butt determines the head: I hope Trump will continue to give his strength and the trade war will be turned upside down!
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xunke posted on 2018-4-22 11:53 4. What do you think of the "ZTE incident"? Honesty is the basis, abide by the rules of the game
I agree with what you said. But the rules of the game are made by those who hold power. If you are controlled by others, you must abide by their rules. Such rules are not based on freedom and equality.
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1. DCDC has started using domestic products. They are very easy to use and low in price. 2. Domestic M0 M3 are also good. I have started to play with them, and they are good. I am going to use them in my products.
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