The discussion in the group was heated. How should this design be understood?

吾妻思萌

The discussion in the group was heated. How should this design be understood? [Copy link]

 

An old man in the group said that when he was renovating his house, someone there introduced a new design of Bulls, where the panels are staggered so that two plugs can work together.

My brother replied that this is a fire hazard and easy to overload. As a result, he was ridiculed and said he didn't understand anything. Naturally, he was unhappy and came to the group to talk to us.

In my personal opinion, the compact design of the plug was originally designed to take load issues into consideration, and they were deliberately not allowed to be used together (it seems so, waiting for confirmation from forum members).

But considering that the current progress in process materials has increased the load capacity, would this be reasonable? I would like to ask you for your advice.

吾妻思萌

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dcexpert

It looks inconsistent and people with obsessive-compulsive disorder may not like it.

呜呼哀哉

The original one also has two prongs and cannot have three prongs, but it can be used on the extension strip, so I have never figured it out. The wall socket is designed with 2 or 3 prongs, but you can't use them at the same time, so I still don't know how to use it.

LeoMe

The alignment of 2-hole and 3-hole should not be considered too much, it is just to facilitate the alignment of the copper bars of the neutral wire and the live wire, and it is easy to process. The 5-hole panel is originally for convenience, after all, no one can predict what will be plugged in the future. The load on the 3-hole is rarely able to run the full 10A, and the 2-hole device alone is at most 300-500 watts.

If you want to talk about safety, if you don't have enough sockets, most people will connect a power strip, some with 3 sockets and some with 16 sockets. This is more dangerous. I remember that the maximum power written on the power strip is usually 2500W.

tagetage

My understanding is.

An old man in the group said that when he was renovating his house, someone there introduced him to a new design of Bulls, in which the panels were staggered so that the two plugs could work together. This statement is correct.

My brother replied that this is a fire hazard and is prone to overload. --------This statement is wrong.

In my opinion, the compact design of the plugs was originally designed to take into account the load issue, and they were deliberately not able to be used together. It should have been a cost issue, not a load issue. The size of the load is determined by the current, not the number of plugs.

The picture of the panel clearly states that the current is 10A. If it is a 2 or 3 hole combination, the current cannot exceed 10A. If it is staggered, the total current of the two loads cannot exceed 10A.

tagetage

My brother replied that this is a fire hazard and is prone to overload. ---------Why is his statement wrong? If the more holes there are, the more likely it is to overload and cause fire, then the socket strip has many more holes than this 2-hole panel, so isn't it more likely to be overloaded and cause fire?

秦天qintian0303

The 5-hole panel should be able to adapt to more plugs. This mainly depends on the power cord at the back. There are more sockets.

damiaa

If the wall plug is frequently plugged in and out, it is best to lead out a socket row. For example, in front of the TV cabinet at home, next to the sofa, or next to the computer.

It is not recommended to plug it directly into the wall. It is easy to break. It is difficult to replace it if it breaks. You need to turn off the power, and the wires in the wall are easy to break if they are twisted too much. The replacement cost is high compared to the socket.

As for how many appliances are plugged into one socket and how many appliances are plugged into one strip, they should be similar in nature.

Keep larger power appliances away from people as much as possible and turn off the power to prevent fire!

aozima

Vote with your feet. I replaced all my sockets with staggered ones a few years ago.

Even two 16A air-conditioning sockets have been replaced with 5-hole sockets, on which low-power devices such as APs and smart speakers can be connected.

The small device is placed on the indoor unit of the air conditioner. It does not take up space and cannot be seen directly from the outside. The effect is very good.

At least the power exceeds the limit. If you connect a 3-hole power strip to it and then connect a bunch of other things behind it, won’t it exceed the limit?

As for aesthetics? Just buy what you like.

qwqwqw2088

It doesn't meet national standards.

The country has mandatory standards

qwqwqw2088

This kind of bull and misaligned 5-hole seat should be normal and in line with national standards.

极限零

It is indeed a standard product, but it does not look good. Nowadays, electrical appliances have high power, which has nothing to do with sockets. When my house was decorated, I asked for all the wires to be 16A, but the decoration company did not do it for me to save money.

Nubility

The 2-pin and 3-pin sockets are put together, nominally to prevent overload, but in reality it is to encourage people to buy more sockets so that they can make more money. If you really want to prevent overload, adding a protection circuit is the way to go.

wangerxian

Extreme Zero published on 2024-3-19 15:02 It is indeed a standard product, but it is not good-looking. Nowadays, electrical appliances have high power, which has nothing to do with sockets. When I installed my house, I required all the wires to be 16A, but...

16A is 2.5 square wire?

wangerxian

There are only a few high-power household appliances, so overload is basically unlikely.

In fact, it seems that this kind of staggered ones cannot be plugged in too many times. At home, some of them are staggered and some are straight, and I don't feel any difference when using them.

吾妻思萌

There are only a few high-power home appliances, and basically there will be no overload. In fact, this staggered connection does not seem to allow for more plugs. I have some staggered and some straight at home, and I don’t feel any difference when using them.

Yes, I feel that there is no difference in daily use, but it seems that the staggered connection is a patent.

hjl2832

The 10A standard is just a game rule set by the national standard. If the standard requires that the pin spacing of a 15A socket be wider, 90% of the current common electrical plugs will be incompatible. Currently, only high-power equipment such as air conditioners use 15A plugs, and common electrical appliances use 10A plugs. For the sake of the market, do you think it is better to do 90% or 10%?

Speaking of overload, I don't know where to start. The old electric meters in the past were rated for a maximum load current of 10A, and the new electric meters now seem to be rated for 16A for ordinary households. The electric meters are all limited, so no matter how big your socket is, there will be no problem?

wangerxian

Azuma Simeng posted on 2024-3-20 07:14 Yes, I feel that there is no difference in daily use, but it seems that the staggered one is still a patent

Then I see that many manufacturers’ sockets are staggered.

吾妻思萌

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