Remember Dev-C++ and Delphi?

freebsder

Remember Dev-C++ and Delphi? [Copy link]

 

https://github.com/Embarcadero/Dev-Cpp

Embarcadero, which owns C++Builder and Delphi, forked a dev-c++ with Delphi and integrated the newer gcc9

It's quite interesting, and seems quite active.

But the HD screen display seems a bit awkward.

lcofjp

Have you used dev-c++? Does that mean it has been refactored and upgraded?

dcexpert

There is also open source Delphi (Lazarus), which has a very useful cross-platform function.

bigbat

"Lazarus's cross-platform function is not easy to use." First of all, the size of this library under Linux is very large, and it inherits the memory management characteristics of Delphi. The program is not only large but also very unstable. Even Kylix at that time had a very poor experience. Of course, this has something to do with the poor Linux desktop environment, but at that time (2002), it was given high hopes. Some people even predicted that the emergence of Kylix would greatly improve the development of Linux desktop applications and may impact the Windows desktop system.

freebsder

lcofjp posted on 2021-4-7 09:14 Have you used dev-c++? Does it mean it has been refactored and upgraded?

I don't know if it was rewritten or developed from the original code. Anyway, I used it for a while and it's OK.

freebsder

dcexpert posted on 2021-4-7 10:29 There is also open source Delphi (Lazarus), which has cross-platform functions and is very useful

What a pity! If Borland had focused on development tools for Linux back then, Qt would probably be out of business now.

freebsder

bigbat posted on 2021-4-7 12:25 "Lazarus's cross-platform function is not very easy to use." First of all, the size of this library under Linux is very large, and it inherits the memory management features of Delphi...

Delphi and CBuilder are now focusing on mobile development. But I don't think I've heard of any apps using these tools.

dcexpert

bigbat posted on 2021-4-7 12:25 "Lazarus's cross-platform function is not very easy to use." First of all, the size of this library under Linux is very large, and it inherits the memory management features of Delphi...

The improvements after Lazarus 2.0 are very significant. Although it is not perfect, it is still good for simple applications.

dcexpert

freebsder posted on 2021-4-7 17:24 It's a pity. If Borland had focused on development tools for Linux, Qt would probably be out of business now.

Webapps are popular nowadays.

bigbat

dcexpert posted on 2021-4-7 23:38 Webapp is popular now.

Qt had developed well before Kylix, and Borland fell into decline because of the failure of Kylix. This shows that cross-platform projects are not that easy. The success of Qt may have something to do with the success of KDE. The Linux desktop is actually a "pitfall" and it is difficult to support it without sufficient funds.

dcexpert

bigbat posted on 2021-4-8 09:04 Qt had developed well before Kylix, and Borland fell because of the failure of Kylix. This shows that cross-platform projects are not that easy. q ...

Borland's decline was probably due to its wrong board of directors and development direction. Kylix was at most just a trigger.

There are too many Linux distributions, each developing independently and difficult to unify. This is the result of being too free.

bigbat

I have experienced this period of Borland's history. When Kylix was released, I was participating in a Chinese-language project. At that time, the project was required not to be bound to the operating system. This was a policy issue that could not be discussed. It was because of the emergence of Kylix that PB was negated, but Kylix really felt bad. Later, the project was developed using Delphi 6.0. Delphi's memory management is really frustrating, even on the Windows platform. Everyone's main point of view was influenced by Taiwan's teacher Li Wei. At that time, there were former employees of Borland in the project team. The view within the company was that Delphi's product itself was a problem. BC and Delphi use the same VCL system, resulting in the same source of defects for both. There was also some suppression from MS. Borland's executives have a certain responsibility but it is not the main one. If Delphi did not have so many defects, it would not have caused such a bad impact. The decline of Borland is a problem with the product technology route. The most influential Delphi products I have seen are the Protel series products. If you have used Protel, have you been very angry about the frequent crashes of the software?

freebsder

bigbat posted on 2021-4-8 11:05 I have experienced this period of Borland's history. When Kylix was released, I was participating in a national project. At that time, the project was required not to be compatible with the operating system...

My brother is also an "old man".