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Is children's programming a waste of money? [Copy link]

 

In shopping malls, you can often see people promoting children's programming. These salespeople will imply that children's programming is a skill that every child must master nowadays, making parents feel that they are not capable enough and must pay to find professional institutions to train their children.

Ask him to introduce children's programming and he will directly point to robots, artificial intelligence, big data, AI... It's hard to say how much software you can learn, and in the end you will be asked to spend a lot of money to buy a bunch of hardware and pay a training fee to make your children happy...

I saw this topic in my friend circle, and there were quite a lot of replies below. So I moved it here for everyone to discuss:

As people who have experienced this, do you think the current popular children's programming is a form of IQ tax?

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99.99% of the time, it is useless for children to learn programming. It is really outrageous that such unscrupulous businesses can make such dirty money.   Details Published on 2020-11-25 23:42
 
 

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A product of pragmatism, the education that Chinese people lack most is logic education.

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It’s best if he is interested, but there is no need to force him if he is not interested. . He won’t understand it if he is too young. . The manager’s child was studying Mathematical Olympiad in primary school. He didn’t learn many things, and he didn’t know addition and subtraction very well. You asked him to study advanced functions or something like that. Are you kidding me? The manager, who has a bachelor’s and master’s degree from a 985 university, couldn’t explain it clearly to him at such a young age. . But in the capital’s Haidian District, we have to compete with our children. There is nothing we can do. .

I think it’s better to be in the fifth or sixth grade of elementary school or middle school, when you are in your teens. If you are interested, you can pursue it. If you are not interested, forget it.

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Whether it is a waste of time depends on the specific course.

I think that children's programming is a concept. The key point behind this so-called children's programming should be the training of logical thinking. Simply talking about children learning programming is just a matter of appearance and practicality.

Thinking logic is what should be trained and learned first. In a sense, children's programming is a product of social development. I have been involved in various online courses, and I have also received the kind of semi-threatening sales promotion of programming courses that you mentioned, my cousin. One of their main arguments is that programming helps logic, which I think is a bit of a substitution of concepts. It should be that strong thinking logic is conducive to programming learning, and then in turn, it can be sorted out from programming to strengthen and consolidate this concept. But I think there are many fun things for young children, which will be better for strengthening thinking logic. For example, Sudoku, chess, Gobang and other chess games, various interesting board games, and there are also many books and tools on thinking logic training on the market.

However, I also bought a preschool programming course for my daughter to lay a foundation for future programming learning. She will start the course next year. But the reason I bought the programming course was more utilitarian. In the future society, we still need the basics of programming.

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“Logical thinking is what should be trained and learned first.” Yes. The best course for training logical thinking is plane geometry, which is learned in junior high school.  Details Published on 2020-10-28 16:15
“Logical thinking is what should be trained and learned first.” Yes. The best course for training logical thinking is plane geometry, which is learned in junior high school.  Details Published on 2020-10-28 15:55
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okhxyyo posted on 2020-10-28 15:27 Whether it is an IQ tax depends on the specific course. I think first of all, children's programming itself is a concept. The key point hidden under this so-called children's programming should be...

"Logical thinking is what should be trained and learned first."

Yes.

To train logical thinking, the best course is plane geometry, which is learned in junior high school.

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okhxyyo posted on 2020-10-28 15:27 Whether it is an IQ tax depends on the specific course. I think first of all, children's programming itself is a concept. The key point hidden under this so-called children's programming should be...

The Chinese language class in middle school used to be divided into two subjects: "Chinese" and "Literature". There used to be logic content in the "Chinese" course textbook (of course, formal logic). Things like the law of the excluded middle, the law of identity, the law of contradiction, etc. were all taught in the "Chinese" class. But, for some reason, these contents were no longer taught later.

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Actually, it depends. However, most children's education institutions are not very professional. After all, they are teaching children. They just need to know a little bit, build blocks and do modular programming. I think it is difficult to develop intelligence by going to such training institutions. We can only let children have more knowledge.

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The three steps of a training institution: deceive parents, pay money, and then close down  Details Published on 2020-11-1 16:09
 
 
 

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There are many training institutions on the street for children to train robots

I don't know what they are teaching the kids.

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Children belong in playgrounds and amusement parks, not programs.

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A few people can really develop their abilities, some people compete to win awards and go to good schools, and some people just follow blindly.

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It mainly depends on whether the child is willing to learn. As long as the child is happy and can learn something, it's fine if he doesn't take responsibility. If the child doesn't like it, it will be useless to instill in him even if he grows up. After all, a forced melon is not sweet.

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I think the most important thing for Chinese children is to develop their divergent thinking ability.

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Although the times are constantly evolving, children should still go with the flow. We should not let adults’ perspectives dictate how children should behave. Adapting to children is the most important thing. If economic conditions allow, they can have more knowledge, but it may not be every child’s strong point.

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Learning music, chess, calligraphy and painting is the orthodox way. Forget about programming for elementary school students.

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If you really want to exercise your thinking, you might as well play Go.

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Very necessary

Exercise students' thinking

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It is still possible to cultivate logical and innovative thinking appropriately

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Interest is the best teacher, whether it is programming or Go... Existence is reasonable.

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Most of the time we just pretend to teach children to copy templates. What’s the point?

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It is a good thing to let one child learn programming, but it is a waste of resources to let countless children learn programming

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