The college entrance examination is over. Tell me, is the school more important or the major more important?

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The college entrance examination is over. Tell me, is the school more important or the major more important? [Copy link]

 

If you can only choose one of the two, a good major in an ordinary university or a bad major in a famous university, which one should you choose? I believe many people have encountered this situation. But what are your opinions on this topic that is still unclear ten years later?

bioger

You have to see what good school it is and what good major it is. If it is in the top ten schools, then it is the school without a doubt.

star_66666

Both are important

AOE-hill

Money is the most important

chunyang

School comes first, major doesn’t matter at all. The atmosphere of different schools and the social class distribution of teachers and students are obviously different. The longer you are in society and the more extensive your contacts are, the more you can see this. According to the analysis of big data statistics, only about 10% of undergraduate graduates work in the so-called "original major" throughout their lives. Therefore, the principle of school first is both the result of rational analysis and the summary of personal experience and lessons.

chenbingjy

chunyang posted on 2018-6-8 16:51 School is the first, major is not important at all. The atmosphere of different schools and the social class distribution of teachers and students are obviously different. The longer you enter the society and the more extensive your contacts are, the more...

The children are very cute!

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chunyang posted on 2018-6-8 16:51 The school is the first, the major does not matter at all. The atmosphere of different schools and the social class distribution of teachers and students are obviously different. The longer you enter the society and the more extensive your contacts are, the more...

Hello, Master! Let's say you go to Tsinghua University, study biology, where can you get a good job after graduation? Go to the United States for a postdoctoral fellowship? A biology student, if you want to work in our electronics, you can't enter the electronics institute, you can't enter the system. Going out to compete in technology without a foundation, it's a waste of your own Tsinghua brand. Going to North China Electric Power should be much worse than Tsinghua. After graduation, go to the Electric Power Research Institute. Or take the entrance exam to a petroleum university and then join Sinopec, which is also good.

ljj3166

One-sentence explanation: Having an awesome alumni network is far more awesome than having awesome professional skills.

lehuijie

I really want to say that it is more important to learn a good major, but given the current domestic and international environment, a good university is more important for future development.

navy2609

School is important for people who have come here

白丁

Now that the scores are out, the schools I can go to are pretty much decided. These schools are pretty much the same, so I'll choose a school first and then a major.

feiji666

If you learn a profession well, you will be great.

chunyang

chenbingjy posted on 2018-6-8 16:53 The child is very cute!

Thank you! "Child" is a state of more than ten years ago. Now it is time to consider going to college. Now, most of my classmates don't have to think about this. Instead, they are thinking about their children's work, marriage, buying a house, etc. Many of them have posted their children's weddings on WeChat Moments...

chunyang

Lanbo published on 2018-6-8 17:02 Hello, Master! Let's say you go to Tsinghua University and study biology. Where can you get a good job after graduation? Do a postdoc in the United States? If a biology student wants to work in our electronics, ...

University majors are only useful when you enter the system, and they are only useful when you enter a professional unit. But how many places do these units recruit each year? How many good units are there? And how many university graduates are there each year? If you study biology, there are more employment channels, and you don't necessarily have to be in the field of biology. People in the electronics industry may not know much about this. But statistics show that the relationship between undergraduate majors and long-term employment majors is very small, and only about 10% of graduates work in their majors for a long time. However, in the case of Tsinghua University and Peking University, the vast majority of undergraduates will choose to continue their studies, and the proportion of students studying abroad is very high. In our era when thousands of troops crossed the single-plank bridge, the graduates of Tsinghua University and Peking University studied abroad at almost 90%. Among my high school classmates, the study-abroad rate of students attending these two schools was 100%. Although the study-abroad rate has dropped a lot now, it is due to the development of the domestic economy and the increase in high-end employment opportunities. Moreover, even for Peking University and Tsinghua University, the number of students on campus now far exceeds that of our era. But even so, needless to say, in just ten years you will find the difference between Tsinghua University and North China Electric Power graduates. Of course, it is easy to find individual counterexamples, but looking at the average, it is too telling. This is the benefit of a good school. Most people are easily influenced by the environment they are in most of the time. If everyone around you is a top student and everyone is hardworking and enterprising, then the possibility of being a top student and working hard will greatly increase. Moreover, being a graduate of a prestigious school is very helpful in reminding and motivating oneself from time to time. Habits, long-term psychological hints, and even expectations from society, graduates of prestigious schools have a very distinct advantage in the average of personal achievements compared to non-prestigious school graduates. This is supported by long-term and large amounts of statistical data. For the same person, when choosing between "Ox Queen" and "Chicken Head", the statistical data also show that although there are some extremely successful cases of those who choose "Chicken Head", the average personal achievements of those who choose "Ox Queen" are higher, and the gap with the average of those who choose "Chicken Head" is not small. This is more telling.

chunyang

lehuijie posted on 2018-6-8 19:19 I really want to say that it is more important to learn a good major, but in the current domestic and international environment, a good university is more important for future development.

There is no contradiction between the two. Choosing a famous university is more likely to promote your major. Moreover, now is not the era when we were assigned jobs by directives. It is much easier to cross majors and change majors in universities, which was almost impossible in our time. What's more, finding a job now is a two-way choice and there are interviews. If you don't like or are not satisfied with the major, you have the opportunity to take classes on your own in the school. If you have the corresponding ability to prove the interview, you have the opportunity to get a position. In our time, we only looked at the name of the major and there was no room for choice.

yang_alex

chunyang posted on 2018-6-8 16:51 School comes first, major doesn't matter at all. The atmosphere of different schools and the social class distribution of teachers and students are obviously different. The longer you are in society and the more extensive your contacts are, the more...

I agree very much! Thirty years in the east, thirty years in the west. No one can say for sure what major will be popular and have "money prospects" in ten years. But the reality is that many famous companies do not recruit people who are not from 985 or 211.

yang_alex

Lanbo published on 2018-6-8 17:02 Hello, Master! Let's say you go to Tsinghua University and study biology. Where can you get a good job after graduation? Do a postdoc in the United States? If a biology student wants to work on our electronics, ...

According to what you said: If a student of electronics wants to work on biology, he cannot enter the biology institute or the system. If he goes out to compete with technology without a foundation, he will waste his Tsinghua brand. Is it true? Since you studied biology, you must go to a research institute related to biology. There are also many biology-related ones in the system. Even if you go out, there are still many biology-related companies, and there are also companies with good treatment. You have the Tsinghua brand, so it will be easier to get in.

chunyang

Let's take a look at the career change rate of my class in college. My alma mater is not very famous, but it is the last one among the first 20 211 universities, and it is also one of the first 985 and the first "vice-ministerial" universities. The major I studied is very important to the corresponding industry in China, so the relative career change rate of our class should be one of the lowest in the whole school. But among the 36 students in our class that year, only 1 person was really engaged in the major in the strict sense, 3 people worked in the major, and 8 people worked in the industry system including related fields. In addition, 2 people were teachers in the university major, which should also be counted. That's a total of 10 people, a ratio of 27.8%, which is definitely high. What about the career change rate? Naturally, it is 72.2%. It's okay to say that it is "most", including myself. To say that my career change is not far from the major, but I know that many classmates who studied mechanics and engines in the same school changed their careers to become programmers, and the number is far more than that of computer science. Many students who majored in computer science and electronics have switched to finance and real estate, and some even work in industries that have nothing to do with our school, such as media and pharmaceuticals. Our school is an engineering university, but I roughly counted that only a small number of students work in technical jobs, and most of them did not become engineers or other engineering technicians. Therefore, the conclusion drawn from big data statistical analysis that only about 10% of undergraduates work in their majors is reliable.

chunyang

yang_alex posted on 2018-6-8 22:39 I totally agree! Things change over time. No one can predict what majors will be popular and have a "money future" in ten years. But the reality is that many famous companies are recruiting...

Yes, don't talk about things that change over time. In ten years, things will change drastically. The world is different.

helloxx

A good school must be more important than a good major!!!